In this episode, we lean away from the more iconic artists on the 120 Minutes playlist and instead land on a couple contenders for “one-hit wonder” status and an influential band who never hit the heights that some of those that borrowed from them did.
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Episode 10 – October 1987 (94 downloads )TRANSCRIPT
And welcome back to 120 Months. We are doing a month by month dive on MTV’s 120 minutes, and so far, it’s been a lot of fun. We’re in 1987.
This episode we’re going to be talking about October, and I’ve got Keith Porterfield and Scott Mobley along with me. We each picked a song from that playlist in October of 87. We’ll talk about that, and then we’ve got our favorite part of the episode, a mystery song at the end of the episode.
They always turn out to be delightful in one way or the other. And this one is no exception, so we will get to that, but kicking things off this week is Mr. Scott Mobley. So for this week, I chose Birds Fly, Whisper to a Scream by Icicle Works.
We are, we are, we are, we are fighting our way around. We are, we are, we are Take us forever. I gonna tell you a little bit about these guys.
Honestly, there isn’t a whole lot to tell, and probably not much reason to hunt them down, honestly. Other than the fact, though, that this song, and possibly only this song, is one of those just definitive, undeniable 80s, one hit wonder songs that I think everybody should know. I mean, I can even say this is not even really my kind of thing.
And you can probably tell from a lot of stuff I’ve chosen for this podcast, but man, do I love this song? So this band forms in 1980, um, their main member is Ian McNabb. their singer, guitarist, keyboardist, and songwriter. Drummer Chris Scherek, bassist Chris Le.
That band in that incarnation releases 4 albums from 84 to 88, um, and then break up in 89. Now, McNabb has over the years, toured as icicle works, or the icicle works, if you’re in the US. That’s one of those things I couldn’t find why.
They, their albums were released in the United States as the icicle works. and in the UK as icicle works. It’s not one of those, there was already another band called that. So I couldn’t find that, but that’s one of those things.
But, you know, he has formed different bands. Sometimes these guys get back together, sometimes 2 of them get together, play an acoustic set, stuff like that, on and off over the years, but that’s really about it. So their 1st album comes out in 84, and it’s self-titled, and it yields 2 UK hits of the 1st one’s called Love is a Wonderful Color. goes around to number 20 in the UK, and then this song, which also goes to around number 20 in the UK.
And also number 20 in the U.S. and the album charts in the U.S. at number 40, which is really high for an album that only has one great song on it, one hit anyway, I should say. But, and that’s so it’s solely based on the success of this song. They get to, you know, a top 40 album in the US.
So they have 3 more albums before they break up, a few minor chart appearances only in the UK, nothing higher than around number 50. And so in the end, but in the US, this is it. But man, this song.
This is just one of the most perfect pop songs that I can think of. It’s so catchy and so memorable and perfectly written, produced and executed. I just, I just think it’s one of the greatest songs of this era.
I would have bet money that this was in a movie. Not a John Hughes movie because I know those soundtracks, but something like it, one of the teen sex comedies of the 80s or a rom-com or something. I just I couldn’t find that.
I don’t think it ever was. So I think it’s just one of those songs that was just everywhere for a minute when it came out and I just associated with a certain time and a place. Man, what a great song.
So the video. Well, there’s some leaves blowing around, in it? Yeah, so the video’s just the band like in a room and obviously their girlfriends or some intern is standing in front of a giant fan with bags of dead leaves, shaking them into it.
I seriously thought at one point that McNabb, you know, he’s trying to sing through all of this. He looks genuinely uncomfortable, like annoyed by the leaves, like he’s, he’s spinning leaves out of his mouth while he’s trying to lip sync this stuff. So it’s kind of goofy.
But, you know, it’s also harmless as videos go. I will give the video pros for the whoever filmed it deciding to highlight that guy playing the Tom part, which is really is one of the like infectious parts of this song, is that that Tom beat, and they show the guy banging on the Tom doing it. I did dig a little bit into these guys, and I really didn’t find anything else that I liked much at all.
I mean, the other single, The Love is a Wonderful Color. It was all right, but it’s nothing special, and the rest of it pretty much left me cold. I just, I just didn’t think anything of these of, of their other stuff at, at all.
Just so one little fun fact, in the UK, when this song was released, it was called Birds Fly, parentheses, whispered to a scream. In the US, it was called whisper to a scream, parentheses, birds fly. But either way, this is a fantastic early 80s pop jam.
You can really do no better. And brought to you by decisive one-hit wonders, the icicle works. Yeah, they’ve got 3 more albums than I would have guessed.
How does a band write a song that good and not like have like maybe one or 2 other? Like, it’s just amazing, because they’re not the only ones. I mean, we know that for a fact.
This is a really good song. This isn’t just a good song. This is a really, really good song.
And it’s, you just wonder, like, did they really not even have, like, one or 2 other something, you know, close to that in them? Because it kind of blows my mind. I couldn’t find it.
If they did, I couldn’t find it. And they even they even have some covers. And I thought, well, maybe they’re good at doing these covers.
They’re terrible. They do a cover of, they do a cover. I think it was hallelujah.
One of those kind of iconic songs they did to cover. was awful. Like I made it a minute into it and turned it off. I don’t know.
They, I mean, maybe, yeah, they just struck gold with this song. is so good. It’s well written. They’re obviously, you know, they play their instruments like it’s well produced.
It’s everything from an 80s song that you could possibly want, but yeah, they just, they didn’t seem like they were able to do it again. The title thing is interesting because I’ve heard the song probably a 1000 times. I mean, without exaggeration.
I never really caught the birds. I mean, I know where the birds fly is. You know, I was kind of listening for it, and I know it’s in there, but you clearly want to title this song, Whisper to a Scream, like why you would ever even think to title it birds fly.
I guess you could, like, throw it in the print sees, like in the US is, I guess, a good compromise, but just don’t you don’t even need to bother. Like this song clearly should be called Whisper to a Scratch. Yeah, just call it whisper to a scream and call it a day.
Yeah, like, why would you even, like, take the risk of people confusing this with anything else? Well, it’s interesting you say that because when I saw icicleworks, birds fly on the list. I was like, well, I don’t even know what that is.
You know, I mean, and I’m, and I’m pretty good with one hit wonders, like especially from this era. I know the one hit wonders. Icicle Works was not a name that clicked in my brain at all, but Whisper to a Scream, by God, did.
I knew when I saw that that that’s what this song was and how much I love this song. Yeah, the only other note I have is basically the same thing you did about the video, which is like, if you watch the 1st 10, 15 seconds of the video, you’ve, you got it. That’s what it does.
Like, that’s it. doesn’t go anywhere. If you think it’s gonna, there’s gonna be like a plot twist. or the the weather’s going to change. Nope, it’s windy.
It’s leafy, and that’s about as far as it goes. But the lead singer does look genuinely like this was a dumb, this was a bad idea. Yeah, he’s like just…
You just get pummeled by deadlies that, like, are clearly being just tossed in the air by some schmo they got off the street or possibly their girlfriends, like, into the fan. But so yeah, not the most creative video, but absolutely a classic 80s track from like the definition of a one-hit wonder. But man, when they that one hit, it’s good.
It’s real good. Yeah, with 3 for 3 on all of us liking this song. I will play the contrarian a little bit in fact, that I did really actually like this video.
Even though, like you said, there’s not much going on with it, aside from them, you know, the performance video, but I just, the visuals of it, with the light and shadow going on and the leagues flying around and creating those little flying shadows all over the place and all of it. I just thought it was cool. I really like this video, even though, like you say, there’s not just a whole lot going on to it or with it, I should say.
But yeah, great song. I mean, and, you know, Scotty, you said this one is not necessarily the kind of thing you normally like. It is exactly the kind of thing I normally like.
I mean, this song is right up my alley and being a big U2 fan. You know, I have a soft place in my heart for big bombastic choruses. And this song absolutely has a big bombastic course that is just fabulous.
Yeah, it is bizarre that these guys didn’t do anything else after this because, yeah, this song is so incredibly good. And I kind of feel like just doing a little reading on them. Like you said, Scott, there’s not a whole lot out there, but this guy Ian McNabb was obviously talented.
They said one thing I read is that on their live shows, he would sing the song with his right hand play, an open-tuned guitar part, and with his left hand play, a keyboard part, all at the same time. Like, I can’t do one of those things, and this guy’s doing all 3 of them on stage in front of, you know, probably not 1000s of people, but at least a few people out there watching them. So the guy was obviously an impressive musician.
So, yeah, who knows why they weren’t able to crank out anything else after this? If there are fans of this band out there and they have other great songs. I apologize for what I said, but I couldn’t find them.
That’s that’s just it. I didn’t listen to everything they ever put out, but I kind of listened to their, what there were their top songs, you know, and it just, I had nothing, grabbed me at all. Nothing, I don’t, certainly not on the level of this song.
Yeah, I didn’t even check any of the other stuff out. I just listened to the song, but I’ve always known the song and really liked it. One other thing I was going to say, though, that’s interesting.
We talked about them being kind of a one hit, wonder is that a few years ago, I bought this song off the iTunes music store, and you know how it always little populates the little window with the album artwork or the single artwork, when you, you know, when the song plays or whatever. For this one, it is a photograph of the white paper sleeve of a 7 inch single where you can see the, like, the whatever it is, Capitol Records or whatever label on there that just says, bicycle works. Whisper to a scream.
Like, there’s literally no artwork whatsoever. It’s just the plain white paper sleeve on a 7 inch vinyl record. That was that’s the image that populates when you buy this off of iTunes.
So, yeah, just not a whole lot of oomph behind it, I guess. The record company apparently didn’t give it a, you know, a lot of credence to put, you know, artwork on it or anything. So I thought that was kind of funny too, but yeah, man, what a great show.
It’s weirdly apropos for this song. Yeah, right. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, why the record company didn’t? I’m actually surprised that it didn’t chart higher because you said like around 20 in the UK. Like in the US, that makes sense, but in the UK, I would have actually thought that this was like a top fiver because it just…
It’s so good. Yeah, I would have thought this was a monster hit in the UK and then a big one in the US, but it peaked out about the same spot in both places. I know I played it every week on retro radio back in the day.
I can tell you that. You’re not going to get through that show without playing this song. Yeah, this was really popular in the early 90s as, like, as a retro song as you and I both are well aware of.
As is the next song, actually, that we’re going to talk about. Definitely a different vibe, but equally classic song from that Keith’s going to talk about. Yeah, so this week I am going to talk about the song called 80s by the band, Killing Joke. love with the coming I’ve got the face I’ll take all my cake.
For me, I’m not a huge killing jump fan. I don’t know a whole lot by these guys. I have one of their ’90s albums.
It’s called democracy. It’s fine. The title track’s really good, but the rest of it’s pretty forgettable.
And aside from that, this is really the only killing joke song that I know. And I don’t have any idea where I came across this song. I was kind of trying to think about it, and I don’t remember where I 1st heard it.
I don’t remember who introduced me to it. It just kind of seems to me like it’s always been there, but man, it’s one of my favorite all-time favorite 80s tracks. I just absolutely loved this song.
And for me, the thing that really makes this song, and, you know, makes it one of my favorites, is the guitar part, the lead guitar part. I mean, there are just some songs out there that have such a cool, like, guitar lick in them that you can feel like you could listen to that guitar lick forever. And I’m thinking here about, like, smells like teen spirit or more than a feeling or welcome to the jungle.
You know, I don’t know that this song is necessarily on the level of some of those, uh, maybe, but, but yeah, it’s the guitar licking the song. I could listen to that guitar part on loop forever. I absolutely love that guitar part.
And so, yeah, for me, that’s what really makes this song. But Killing Joe, English band. They reformed in 1979.
The got 4 main members. They had a lot of guys that came in and out, but the 4 main guys were Jazz Coleman. He’s the singer and plays keyboards.
Jordy Walker is the guitar player, Paul Ferguson on drums, and then youth on bass. And youth would go on after he was out of the band for a while. And he came back at one and has been in and out of it.
They got another bass player named Paul Raven. He’s the other main guy in the band. It was those 5 guys when youth was not there, Paul Raven was the basis for the most part.
But even if you may have heard of, he also, after this, did a lot of production work too. So he’s been around as both a producer and a musician for a long time. These guys came out of the post-punk scene in England, but really I wouldn’t describe them necessarily as being post-punk.
I, you know, they got a, definitely got a heavier feel to them. I think than most of what I would think of as being postpunk, little bit of industrial in there, little metal, little goth, kind of all rolled into one. But yeah, they’re kind of considered to be a postpunk band, but I definitely think they’re a little heavier than what, at least what I think of as being postpunk.
And a lot of that has to do with Coleman’s vocals. I mean, he has got a very aggressive interface kind of yelled, raw singing style. And I wrote some of these down because I like some of the descriptions of his voice and his vocals.
One of them was he has savagely strident vocals. Okay? That sounds about right.
One guy describing it being menacing. Another guy as having a terrifying growl for a voice. So if that gives you any insight into Coleman’s voice, it is a major part of what they do, and I don’t think killing joke would be killing joke without his vocals.
And even though, like I said, I didn’t really know a whole lot about this band. You know, I, like I said, I’ve known of them. I’ve known this song for a long time.
I was doing some reading and these guys get name dropped by a ton of different bands. It’s crazy. Metallica, Soundgard, Jane’s addiction.
Faith No More, Nirvana, 9 Inch Nails, My Bloody Valentine. All of these are bands that have, in interviews or whatever name drop these guys as being influencers. So these guys obviously have a lot bigger footprint than I kind of gave them credit for.
This song, 80s, is on their 5th studio album. It’s called nighttime. Like you said, it’s a real, it’s a real rocker, man, kind of a bludgeoning rocker with a heavy guitar in it, and his Coleman’s vocals, really kind of, I don’t want to say anti-80s Creed, but just kind of talking about what life is like in the 80s, and the words push and struggle come up like dozens of times in this song.
And it’s got some cool lyrics in it, leaning toward, just kind of the 80s vibe of the 80s. But my favorite one was one of the verses, he says, I’ve got the best. I’ll take all I can get.
That is the 80s right there. The unchecked movie, the, I’ve already got it, but I want everything else. That’s, yeah, that line right there is a great one in the song and like almost sums up the 80s just by itself right there.
So great song and the lyrics are pretty cool. The video is also really cool. I actually really liked this video too.
It’s basically a performance video, but you’ve got Jazz Coleman behind what appears, you know, behind a lectern with a bunch of microphones on it, like he’s given a press conference or whatever, and there’s an American flag draped over the lectern. There’s a Soviet Union flag bike behind him and he’s, you know, gesticulating wildly and doing the whole like, you know, deer leader giving a speech thing as he’s singing into the array of microphones in front of him. So very cool video.
It has a lot of interstitial footage from the 80s also cut in with it. You get Margaret Thatcher in there, Michael Reagan, Brezneff, the Pope at the time, the Ayatola Comeni, space shuttle launches, nuclear explosions, book burnings, all kinds of imagery from the 80s, both kind of the lingers, and then other things that were going on in the 80s. Like obviously a space shuttle is not a bad thing, but you also get like a spatial launch, I should say, but you also get like a lot of like military footage and maybe people shooting guns and so yeah, there’s kind of some disturbing footage as well as stuff like with the leaders, world leaders at the time.
So I just really liked this video. I liked everything about it. I liked the performance part of it with Coleman behind the lectern doing his deer leader bit and I liked the interstitial imagery.
I just thought it was a cool video. So that’s largely it. One other thing I will mention, and if you do any reading about this song, what you’ll find out is that Nirvana song, the Nirvana song, Come as You Are. essentially lifts the guitar part of this song and kind of reuses it in that song.
And the killing joke guys were aware of that. They heard it. And so there’s some conflicting reports of whether or not they actually ever sued Nirvana or whether, you know, they just were kind of loud about not being happy about it.
There are reports that there was a lawsuit filed, but if it did get filed, it never went anywhere because they never, you know, they never actually ended up getting any damages or anything from Nirvana. If you listen to the 2 songs, you’ll hear it. I mean, it is not mysterious that Nirvana lifted that guitar part.
But they apparently kind of after Kurt Copain died, they, I guess, just kind of dropped it, didn’t pursue it any further. And in fact, Dave Roe actually has played drums for these guys on one of their albums. So any animus there, but because of that has been cleared up and they’re kind of, I guess, you know, don’t have a beef with the Nirvana anymore.
So, and I didn’t write it down. I don’t believe these guys are still active right now. They may be, yeah.
I think they, well, I say that, I think that they haven’t put anything new out in about 10 or 12 years. They may still be playing live. But the guitar player, Jordy Walker, passed away.
And so I’m not sure 100% if they’re still doing their thing or not. But if you haven’t heard it, absolutely 100% recommend 80s by killing joke. Go check it out.
It is one of my all-time favorite 80s tracks. So I mentioned before icicle works, that that song really wasn’t normally something that would be up my alley. Well, here’s something that is directly up my alley.
I mean, this is this has me written all over it. But this is another great example of one of those bands that you don’t hear much about, like the mainstream music world or whatever, at least not here in the US. But man, you said it.
You read any interview with any early 90s alternative band. I challenge you to find one that doesn’t cite these guys as an influence almost immediately. You mentioned Soundgard and Jane’s addiction ministry, 9 inch nails.
All my favorite bands from that era. And you don’t even have to really say alternative bands like, and you mentioned this as well. Metallica calls these guys an influence.
So, and in fact, I saw that James Hetfield mentions this guy as like the biggest influence on his vocal style. So this is one of those bands that like touched everybody else, but maybe never like broke out into the mainstream. But I actually remember the 1st time I heard them was because of Metallica.
Metallica put out an album or an EP, I should say, about 1988 called Garage Days. It was like a 5 song EP of covers, and they’re all really good. And the only song on there that I knew was the Misfits one that they covered.
So I went and listened to the other four. Well, they covered a song called The Wait by a killing joke that I really, really liked. That was the 1st time I remember hearing Killing Joe. So I really liked this song.
Like you said, Keith, it’s got that 80s, you know, British sort of post-punk sound, but it’s definitely harder and faster and a little more angry than some of that stuff. You can hear how these guys are going to influence 90s alternative and industrial moving forward. The video’s fine.
I liked it too. It’s nothing too great. It kind of reminded me that I got to get more killing joke in my life.
That was the one thing I took away from it. They’re kind of one of those bands that because, you know, maybe they aren’t in the zeitgeist as much as they deserve to be. I kind of forget how much I like them until someone reminds me.
And this certainly reminded me that, you know, these guys are really just perfect band for for me. So, and then the only thing I wrote down was, man, I was 5 seconds into this song and wrote down, did they sue Nirvana? Because that, the, the, the, come as you are if just leaps out at you when this song starts.
And yeah, it’s faster. And, you know, not as downtuned as maybe, but man, it’s, it is the same riff. I’m assuming that maybe they just kind of got together and said, hey, you know, sorry.
And then, you know, you guys are cool, we’re cool. Let’s just all let this go. That’s that’s the only reason I could think of that they wouldn’t sue over that because, man, it’s it’s right there as it is the same riff.
Yeah, I think that’s kind of exactly how that went, is that, you know, they they were angry about it, and maybe I guess, you know, like I said, there are conflicting reports. Did they actually file a lawsuit? Did they just talk about filing a lawsuit?
Who knows? Um, but I think once Kurt Cobain passed, um, like kind of as an all its forgiven kind of moment. And yeah, they, for example, they have worked with Dave Grohl since then.
But yeah, you’re not going to miss it. If you’ve heard whichever song you heard first, when you hear the other one, you’re going to realize that, you know, the guitar part is pretty much the exact same thing. It’s a good one.
Yeah, it is a nice riff. The guitar player, just, it’s a shame that he’s passed. He is just not at all what I thought the guitar player from Killing Joke would look like.
I’ll put it that way. Actually, all the members of the band, the lead singer is the only one that even remotely looks like I would have imagined, and he’s kind of, he’s not really in his like rock and roll outfit. He’s more like, you know, you were saying he’s kind of playing the part of a politician, but he’s and and and as you said about his lyrics in the song in general in the video.
He is menacing. He is kind of scary to watch because he’s playing the role really well. And I mean, it’s kind of an angry song.
So, I mean, it totally makes sense. Like he’s, he’s kind of in your face and, uh, he’s not super happy about the situation. But yeah, I was really surprised.
The rest of the band looked very new wavy, but the song is very much not, you know, a new wave track. I did think it was interesting that being a British band, they had the US flag draped over the lectern and not, like, there’s no reference to, like, a UK flag. There are references to like Margaret Thatcher and some other UK politicians that are thrown thrown in there, but I did think it was interesting that they chose the US and USSR flags.
What was the other flag? There’s a US flag and another flag and then the Soviet flag is behind him. What’s the 2nd flag on the podium?
Oh, I didn’t even notice that. I think there is, if I’m remembering right, there were 2 flags on the front of the podium, won the US flag, and I cannot remember what the other one was. I would have guessed it was a Union Jack, but maybe it wasn’t if you didn’t see that.
I’d have to go back and watch that. Because, yeah, I don’t remember being a 2nd flag on the podium. And my take on it.
Neither was it. Maybe I’m just imagining that. kind of just the way they were set. Like the American flag was kind of off to the left.
Maybe there wasn’t anything there. Well, my take on it was that. If I’m not, especially as being a European or a British, you know, person at the time, you know, you’re living in a world where you’ve got the two, the big superpowers at the time, which was the Soviet Union in the US, and you’re kind of at their mercy.
You know, there’s if you’re not, you know, you’re pretty much everybody in the industrialized world at that time was allied with one side or the other, but you really, those folks kind of are, were out, you know, hanging in the wind. You know, you were at the whims of one of those 2 big superpowers at that time and whatever they kind of wanted to do was kind of what you were going to do. And so that was my take on the flag thing was that, you know, ones behind him, ones in front of him, and he’s trapped in between them.
But I didn’t see a 3rd flag. I just looked it up. I just pulled it up and I was, I’m 100% wrong.
It is the American flag on the front of the podium and the Soviet flag behind him. So that’s that’s all it is. Yeah.
I don’t know. I guess it’s because the American flag is so much bigger. I thought it was 2 flags, but it’s also cut into streamers, kind of, which is…
Yeah, it’s kind of different looking, but I was incorrect. Yeah, like I said, that was my take on it. was just kind of caught between the two, you know, and just like as everybody in the 80s was, you were you were between the rock and the hard place, you was either the US or the Soviets at that time, you know? Yeah that’s actually a really good point.
The UK had definitely lost a lot of its luster in a lot of its international power at that point compared to, say, 50, 60 years, you know, previous. Yeah, otherwise, I don’t really have anything to disagree with or add to what you guys said. It’s a great song.
It’s a very effective video. I think not much like icicle works in the fact that like icicle works is really, to me, kind of a boring video, but like, it doesn’t really change. Like it’s shots of the band and then shots of the lead singer at the lectern kind of yelling the lyrics at you, you know, and it doesn’t really stray from that, except for some of the, you know, a little bit of the interstitial stuff.
But I think super effective and yeah, I feel like this is a song that I didn’t appreciate as much. I wasn’t aware of it like in 85. I think it came out in 85. is that right?
I wasn’t really aware of it then. I didn’t discover it till I got into college radio in the early 90s and I like it a lot more now. I even, not that I didn’t like it then, but I really appreciate it more now for what it is.
It’s a really great track. You guys mentioned the their look in the in the video. I wonder if, you know, right after this is when, you know, industrial and goth really starts to grow, you know, and become more of a thing.
I wonder if they leaned into that more as it went forward. They do look like a new waveman in this video, but their sound is definitely going to start, you know, and from what you read, sounds like it was a major influence on what’s going to come shortly after this. I wonder if they kind of leaned into the more industrial look more as they went on.
Yeah, wouldn’t surprise me. I did like Geordie Walker in this video where in what appeared to be like the priest collar and black shirt with the sleeves cut off of it. I thought that was a cool look, but yeah, it would be interesting.
I don’t know what they did after that. Yeah, I actually really like that look as well. That was cool.
So I don’t know if you would consider killing joke 80 is a one-hit wonder or not. Killing Joke is kind of a band that maybe kind of transcends the one-hit wonder thing because they’re kind of like, like you guys were talking about. They’re kind of more influential really than you realize.
But this is the only song I knew from them, so they kind of fall in that category. Icicle works very clearly, like the definition of a one-hit wonder. The song that I picked is actually from a band that just has one song.
So they they are nothing but a one. They could they could be nothing other than one. No choice.
No choice. I guess it could have been a flop. It was either going to be a one hit wonder or a one flop wonder.
That’s how that was going to go. So we’re going to talk about, in this little segment, Mars. Pump up the volume.
Do it. Do it. Do it.
Do it. Pump up the volume, pump up the volume, pump up the volume, And so this isn’t even really a band. This is two bands put together.
Um, and the story is as follows. You have a color box, which is signed to 4 AD records, and they are kind of an 80s pop with a little dance vibe to them. They have a really great lead singer.
A lot of their stuff is a little more like down tempo, but danceable with like kind of a soul music, um, lyrical bent to it, I guess you would say, or melodic bent to it. And then you have another band called A.R. Kane, that’s a little more on the artsy side of dance music, who was signed to us, very small label that they were not happy with.
They actually reached out to 4 AD and was like, hey, we’d kind of like to be on a better label, and that started like a little bit of a rumbling between the labels, but they offered ARcane, the opportunity to work with Colorbox, and collaborate on something. So you have these 2 bands who are kind of asked to collaborate on music. And it turns out that does not go very well.
They don’t really get along particularly well or I don’t know if it was personal or if they’re just a collaboration thing, but it doesn’t really work. So what they end up doing is they each create basically their own song, they pass it over to the other band to maybe, you know, tweak a little bit or play with. And then they release it as like an a double A side single, I guess.
Although what really happens is that color box is the band that comes up with pump up the volume, essentially, that really is the A side, and AR Kane comes up with a song called Anatina, which is the backside to that single, whether you want to consider it a double A side or a B side. If now listening to it, it’s it’s very clearly the B side because it’s not nearly nearly as good. There’s a reason that you’ve probably heard pump up the volume and you probably have not heard Antatina.
It is, it’s not great. They were more artsy. They were going for something different and they absolutely did.
I mean, it is, I would say, more complex by a long shot than pump up the volume. It’s got a lot more going on, but it’s it’s just not pump up the volume. I mean, that pump up the volume becomes one of Britain’s most influential house music tracks of all time.
It really starts. It doesn’t start the house music trend. It does solidify house music and it starts a trend towards sample heavy dance music that will kind of take over Britain and the US for like the rest of the late 80s and into the early 90s before like Acid House and and trance and some other like genres start to kind of push it to the side.
So there’s really a subset of music that comes from those 5 or 6 years where it’s just sample, sample samples over, you know, big, thick beats and, you know, a lot of that’s obviously a legal thing. Like these guys sampled, I think there’s something like 25 samples in this track, believe it or not, they didn’t, you know, they didn’t clear it. They didn’t pay for that.
They had one issue going into it with or once it’s out. They have an issue with the producers. There’s a group of producers that actually produced Rick Astley’s never going to give you up, which is on the charts at the same time as pump on the volume.
They go after Mars for this song, even though the sample they use is like heavily distorted, and the one of the guys from Mars says, like, they don’t think that the other guys would have even known that they use the sample if they hadn’t been blasting it on interviews and talking about it. Like they had been running their mouths about all these samples they were using in this production group that was known as SAW for the initials of the producers. Probably wouldn’t have known, but they caught wind of it.
And there’s kind of this theory that the reason they went after Mars was to try to keep them from taking over, never going to give you up on the charts because they were actually kind of fighting for the top spot on the charts. The main sample, by the way, comes from an Eric B. and Rakeem song. It’s just a picture perfect sample, the actual pump up the volume because the song itself drops out all the music and you just hear that pump up the volume is like totally clean.
So I’m surprised there aren’t 20, 30 other tracks that use. Actually, there probably are 20 or 30 other tracks that use that standard. been sampled a lot. is that many. It does get sampled a lot because it’s a nice clean sample, so of course it does.
They would end up being on the same label as Eric being Rakim, so they actually kind of helped Eric B. and Rakim find a little bit of a new audience and they end up doing them some good by using the sample. So there are multiple, multiple versions of this song. There are five, like, basic versions of the song, and then there are remixes and remixes that have come out since then.
A lot of that has to do with some of the sample clearances, that issues that they start to have. The US version is specifically very different from the UK version in my view. If you’ve heard the UK version and some of the dance versions, it’s pretty stripped down, it’s got that really great baseline.
It’s got the drums, obviously. It’s got to pump up the volume, and then a few other samples in it. The US version, which is the version that is linked to on YouTube and is the official US radio edit and the official video, is much busier.
It’s got like a lot of hip-hop samples in it that I really wasn’t as familiar with because I had always played kind of the more dance clubby version. The reason for that is that the American version was actually released by Fourth and Beway Records, which had a whole, like, roster of hip hop artists signed to them. So they were able to provide all these samples to Mars and be like, hey, if you want to, you know, kind of pump up the song, if you will, with more samples. you know, we can basically give them to you and they didn’t have to go through like all the clearance bullshit.
So the US version that, again, that you would hear if you watch the official video has a lot more like hip-hop type stuff going on with it. It’s to me, it’s a little too busy. I think the strip down version is kind of the more iconic version of the song, but I did think that was interesting because as I was listening to it, I was like, God, this has a lot of samples that I don’t remember in it, but that’s why the US radio edit in particular has a lot going on.
What do I think of the song? It’s freaking awesome. I love, love.
I love this track from the day I heard it. I’m pretty sure I heard this the very 1st time I ever went to a dance club in in beautiful Lubbock, Texas, walking into what I think was the planet at the time. I think anybody that’s involved with club culture knows that clubs change their name like every year, year and a half-ish, and this club in.
Yeah, that one was no, it was the planet. It was Mars, it was the tunnel. I don’t remember what it was after that.
A A24, something came in there, so… A212. Devalon, A212.
Thank you. That was it for a while. Like that, you know, that’s just the nature of clubs.
But anyway, as a freshman in college, some friends of mine drug me to a dance club for the 1st time, I really had just started to discover alternative music and dance music. I didn’t know what to expect, but I distinctly remember hearing 2 songs that night. One was Mars pump up the volume and the other one was Front 242 Welcome to Paradise.
Both very sample heavy dance tracks. So I really fell in love with the idea of samples, not just of music, you know, musical samples and hip hop samples, but something like welcome to paradise where they’re sampling like preachers and evangelists and creating this kind of pastiche of religious overtones on top of this kind of, you know, really aggressive industrial dance music. Like I just fell for that hook line and sinker right off the bat. loved it, loved it, loved it, and have loved it ever since.
And during my my brief attempts to make dance music, that’s the kind of dance music I made was like sampling stuff because I loved it. It all, I, to say it all comes back to this one track is reductive, but it almost all comes back to this one track. I mean, this track really launched that idea of dance music and and finding really cool samples and making that work.
And it’s a shame that we don’t you don’t hear really any of that today, and it really did fall out of fashion by the mid 90s. You didn’t get a lot of tracks like that compared to what you were getting in the late 80s, early 90s. But to me, this is the, it’s the iconic sample heavy house music track.
It’s as classic of a dance track as it gets and it’s fantastic. Real quick, the video is non-remarkable to a lot of public domain, astronaut stuff tossed in with some other, like freeway footage, a little other, but it’s basically like a bunch of NASA footage cut together. Nothing wrong with it.
I always, I’ll watch NASA footage on YouTube just for fun. So seeing it over the top of one of my favorite dance tracks was great, but nothing remarkable about the video. You guys might have more to say about that.
But, um, the song, to me, is a 10 out of 10, no notes, fantastic dance track. Yeah, great song. The funny thing about that was, and I knew this was this song.
I knew it was pump up the volume, but it had been a while since I heard it, and I didn’t listen to it until yesterday, and I’ve spent my entire week this week running around when I was thinking about the podcast with pump up the jam going in my head instead. I had to, I had to listen to this song to kick that one out of my head so I could get the right, the right song going. But yeah, man, great club track.
This is another one. kind of like the killing joke song. I haven’t been aware of the song for a long time, but I don’t have any idea where the 1st I 1st heard it, but yeah, I don’t have a whole lot to add on this, because I think you covered it all pretty well. I did like the video.
I thought the, you know, the astronaut footage and the astronaut training footage and all that stuff going on with the beats in the background was really cool. And there was one particular moment I liked. And I’m not, yeah, I’d have to look for it because it’s real brief, but it looked to me like they took footage of like somebody getting shot out of an ejector seat and ran it backwards because there was one brief little moment where it looked like there was this open cockpit and suddenly this dude comes flying feet 1st into it.
So I don’t know if pulled off a really cool move or if that was some footage run backwards or what. But I really did like that part of that part of the video. But yeah, man, um, thinking about that time and the kind of dance tracks that were around back then and doing a little reading on this.
I didn’t have time to do much reading on it. I did see some of the other tracks that apparently were inspired by this, one of which was S Express theme from S Express, which I probably haven’t heard in, gosh, 35 years or more. But the minute I saw that, I was like, S Express, I remember that one.
I love those guys. So, yeah, this wouldn’t, you know, obviously really influential and, you know, had a big impact on what was going on in the day. But I don’t know that anybody ever topped it.
This was probably the apotheosis of that particular genre of, you know, clubby dance music with all the samples thrown over the top of it. I don’t know that you’re going to get any better than this particular song. Yeah, so I agree wholeheartedly.
This is, you know, one of those iconic dance tracks or whatever. where I’ve kind of been wrestling with it for the last couple days is the timeline of of when it became popular versus when it was on 120 minutes versus like the time you’re talking about, Michael. Because like, you’re talking about hearing it at a club in Lubbock, you know, when you were in college. you’re younger than me. I remember hearing this song when I was in high school. which would have been years before that.
And it was all over the radio, at least in San Antonio, Texas, in the mid to late 80s. This song was all over the top 40 radio charts. So I was trying to kind of place like when it became a mainstream hit versus, you know, kind of kind of the eternal question.
Why was 120 minutes playing this? Like, it, and maybe, maybe I’m just cloudy on when it went from being an alternative song or a kind of a new thing into the mainstream. you know, maybe I’m just, you know, those details are vague to me or whatever. But that’s kind of what I’ve been wrestling with.
The other thing I’ll mention about the song as from a club perspective. is this song is around 115 beats per minute, which is in that wonderful area between how do I get from the slow songs to the faster songs? And this is one of those perfect transition songs. So that’s nerdy stuff for the DJs out there.
But when you needed a song to get you from the slower stuff into the faster stuff you were going to do, this was the perfect song to do it with. So we got played a ton, at least in the club’s ID, then. Especially because it had like a dropout where you could actually just bump the spin all the way.
It would come back a little faster, but it was like you just could instantly jump up about 5 to 6 BPM. Right. It’s almost like they did that on purpose because they knew they would get more spins if it was fun for DJs to mess with, you know?
And they were probably DJs themselves or at least, you know, in that world. But, um, the video, you know, yeah, like you said, this is, uh, get me some astronaut B roll footage. That’s, you know, that’s really all it is, but it’s kind of fun.
It fits a song, I, in a weird way. I mean, you wouldn’t hear this song and think astronauts, but it does kind of work as a collage of images to go with this song. I thought it worked pretty good.
Yeah, so yeah, this is a great song, an iconic song. I just, I’m really curious to kind of dive into like when it came out versus when it became a mainstream radio hit versus when it became a club staple. Like that timeline just gets real cloudy for me.
But yeah, but there’s nothing, nothing bad to say about the song. It’s an absolute jam. And it’s, certainly was ahead of its time, I think.
And, uh, you know, kind of kickstarted something that would become a thing and is still a thing. So, you know, kudos to him for that. Well, to your point, you know, this, I found this really interesting and I probably should have brought this up initially.
This song was released on August 3rd of 1987. We are doing the playlist from October of 1987. This song had only been out 2 months.
So it’s brand new, right? Yeah, it has not taken off at this point. My understanding is that this was a slow burn in terms of radio play and chart play.
Now, it was, and this is a trick that a lot of record labels used to do back in the day, and I don’t know if it affected things one one way or the other. It was released as a white label initially. And if you’re not in the know as a as like a club DJ, club, white label releases just have the name of the song.
They don’t have the band, they don’t have the record label, they, and they get put out to try to start to, to get people interested in a track, and they try to get DJs to play it without being biased by what record label or what band it is, because a lot of DJs get really attached to like certain record labels, or on the flip side of that, they get really jaded against certain record labels or maybe a certain artist. Guilty Certainly, like if color box had released this under color box, probably wouldn’t have done as well. But nobody knew who Mars was.
I don’t know, you know if that played into it. 4 AD wasn’t necessarily known as a dance, uh, music, you know, powerhouse and never has been. Uh, so I don’t know if that played into it, but it was, it was picked up by 120 minutes really fast.
That’s the 1st thing I will say, like, I don’t know who picked it up and how they knew that it was going to be something worth playing. That’s fair. That makes that makes it make sense because, you know, MTV picks up on this, this new style of music, you know, being done outside of the US.
That’s the perfect thing for 120 minutes at this moment in time. I just I was trying to think about when I would have heard it. I was definitely in high school, and I want to say I was probably like a junior.
So that would have been 88 when it was being played on mainstream radio. And I, you know, San Antonio, Texas is not a major market. So if they were playing it on mainstream radio there, then LA was playing the crap out of it and probably before that.
So, yeah, so that makes the timeline make a little more sense that, you know, MTV jumped on this when it was fresh, and then it sort of slow burned into a top 40 hit later on. Which is probably a theme we’re going to see more. Yeah, I was going to say, we’ve seen that before, actually, with bands that kind of, you know, started off on 120 minutes and then kind of graduated out of that.
So, um, yeah, it would happen for sure. And then, you know, again, it even happened the other way, as I think we’ll see when we keep going on that sometimes a band would graduate out of 120 minutes, get big, and then slide back down into the 120 minutes range again after the popularity kind of faded. So, um, this band, obviously, the one song, they didn’t have the chance to go, you know, up back up and then down the ladder, but uh, but it did happen a lot.
They can say that 100% of their output was a big hit, though. They can. Yeah.
The batting average was very, very good. Yes, very good. We’ve never put out a song that wasn’t a big hit.
Now I’m going to talk about a band that did not break out of 120 minutes, I don’t think. I’m reasonably sure. These bands have surprised me.
I’ve learned things about some of these mystery bands that I would not have expected. I’m going to go out on a limb and Scott can tell us what he’s learned in his research, but I’m going to go out on him and say that this band did not really break out after their appearance on 120 minutes. That is a fair, fair statement.
So, um, just a just a little peek behind the curtain. So when I go about choosing my mystery song when it’s my turn, there is no magic formula, the only criteria is that none of us have heard it before, or, you know, heard of the band or the song. So usually I just go with the coolest sounding band name, or a song title that piques my interest, or as in the case with this song, both.
So this, this week we chose, the band is the leather nun or leather nun, depending on where you look it up. And the song is called I Can Smell Your Thoughts. This is not a romance. perfect night This is a Swedish band.
They form around 1978. They start out as sort of a garage rock thing. uh, like Velvet Underground. They call an influence.
And then they morph into sort of a goth rock slash industrial thing, which is about where I think this song lands. And then they eventually morph into what they call pop rock. You know, I know the lead singer from the cult, whose name I forget, Ian, whatever.
He claims to be a fan of these guys. I think their later stuff, that’s where they’re going, is sort of like that poppy metal sound. But this, I think, falls on that middle thing, sort of the goth industrial thing.
They really only have one core member. The guy’s name is Jonas Almquist. He’s the rest of the band is sort of just whoever he wants to work with at the time.
When they 1st start out, the other 3 guys kind of say the same for a few years, but if you look like, you know, the rotating band members is kind of a thing. And he’s the only listed current member of the band. So it’s been really on and off project over the years, but Leathernone is still out there playing and touring and putting out an album every once in a while.
I think their last one was in 2015. But, you know, fairly recently, they had some output. So early on, this man gains a little notoriety for having been fairly controversial live shows.
They show hardcore gay horn behind them and they have strippers on stage and stuff like that. And they do have a pretty impressive roster of fans like Mud Honey. calls them an influence, butthole surfers claims to like them. So if I had read all of that first, I probably would have dove on top of my laptop to listen to these guys.
Um, you know, all this is right up my alley, early industrial, all controversial live shows, influence some of my favorite bands, but man, this just did nothing for me. I, uh, I just was left ice cold by the song and the video. I think the song is onto something.
It’s got a catchy guitar riff and I kind of like the vocals, but it seems like it’s wanting to go somewhere that it just never goes. It’s like the, the whole song is the opening verse and it never gets to a chorus, it never gets to a bridge. It just kind of is very monotonous and repetitive.
And kind of the same thing with the video. I mean, it’s a vibe video, but it’s almost undecipherable. It’s very black.
Um, a lot of grainy footage. I mean, I like videos like this normally, but this one’s just, it’s too dark and there’s not enough interesting imagery in it to really make it anything. I did notice, however, when I went to listen to the song a 2nd time, trying to give another chance.
I pulled it up on Apple Music. So you know how they list like top songs and they have like all the like the most clicked songs basically for any given band. And then at the bottom is all their albums just kind of in a row where, you know, the songs nobody ever clicks on.
Well, that’s where you find this one. So I went and dug it a little deeper. I’m happy to say that I kind of do like these guys.
They’re exactly as described, you know, early as the earlier goth sort of industrial thing. They’re pretty good at it. It’s just this particular song didn’t work for me at all.
So I would say that if the band I described sounds interesting to you, as it did to me, check these guys out. I just think you can probably skip this song, um, that you can do a whole lot better. I’ll point you to, uh, they did a cover of Abba’s gimme, gimme, gimme.
Thats a delight. Um, so, um, that is the wonderfully named leather nun, and they’re cleverly titled song. I can hear your thoughts, and that was an absolute disappointment for me.
So we did, let me do some interesting stuff, but this song just was kind of a giant man, you know? Small correction, it is, I can smell your thoughts. Oh, wait, I’m sorry, I can smell your, which is 10 times funnier.
Oh yeah, that’s why. Yeah, that’s a huge type on my board. way better. It’s so funny.
You got it right the 1st time, but that’s correct that, because it’s that that title deserves to be repeated as often as possible. I can smell your thoughts. I, yeah, you described it pretty well in terms of like, is there a course to the song?
I’m not sure that there is. Is it going to go anywhere? No, it is not.
It’s definitely not. I will say if you are a fan of Interpol and you want to hear like an album track, like you’re thinking, man, I don’t have enough Interpol music in my life. I wish someone would just make like a kind of a subpar, just toss off B side Interpol track.
This is that. If you told me this was Interpol, I’d have totally, I’d have believed it. I honestly would have. that’s a really fair comparison. didn’t think of that.
Yeah, it’s, I mean, that was, I got the cold, the cold also, but Interpol 100%. I was like, this sounds like a just not great Interpol track. Not least of which, because it sounds a little ahead of its time.
The production is solid. So, like, it sounds like it could sit right next to a modern day Interpol or other track and fit right in. It’s just not a particularly good one, you know, in terms of like a hook or, again, just the song kind of taking you on a journey.
It just, it doesn’t really do that, you know, and that’s a shame. It feels like it wants to go somewhere and it doesn’t go anywhere. I had high hopes, when it started the 1st 60, you know, 70, 80 seconds of it, I was like, okay, this is about to blow my mind.
Exactly when my hours off. I was like, this is, okay, this is cool. And then about a minute and a half in, I’m like, wait a minute.
This isn’t going anywhere. And it continues to not go anywhere, unfortunately. The video is kind of difficult to watch after a while.
It’s very, like, 10 frames per 2nd of just kind of black and white, oversaturate, overexposed stuff. You never really quite see the band. At the end, you kind of see them from behind. like behind the drummers so you see their backs and and they kind of come around to the side for a minute because I was really curious what they look like and what the band, you know, but you never really get there.
But that’s the most cohesive part of the video. The rest of it just is really almost difficult to watch because it’s just very slow and flashy. And that imagery is nothing.
It’s like the Mercedes logo and, you know, like the Deutschman logo. Who cares? Yeah, I was intrigued enough to dig in a little deeper and I went to Apple Music and figured out where they were and because I wanted to hear the song not on YouTube because the production is so good.
I was like, I really want to hear this like fully produced, like the, or a better version of it, to really hear the production because it sounded great and it does sound great. And then I found the ABBA cover. I will say I will do.
I do disagree that it’s a good cover of the episode. The reason I say that is because I feel like they underplay the things that make that that song great, that he takes the melody out of the chorus. You are right.
Like eraser’s cover of it is much better. What I like about it, it sounds like, well, you know, a while back, we talked about a 1000 homo DJs and their cover of Super. This, their cover of gimme, gimme, gimme is if a 1000 homo DJs did it.
It’s it’s the it’s the Al Jorgensen industrial cover of gimme, gimme, gimme. And I liked it on that level. But you’re right.
It doesn’t nail the original song at all, but it’s… I think if I didn’t love the original so much. I don’t think I would have been as upset by it, but just by way of explanation, he monotones the chorus, which the course is, the course, they kind of totally leave out the amazing keyboard part after the chorus, you know, that everybody knows that that’s like, I mean, that’s iconic and they really downplay that to the point where you don’t even really hear it.
And even, and they don’t really hit the really good staccato when they come into the verses on, they’re like, half past 12. Like, that’s that’s such a just bap, bap, bap, you know, and it’s ABBA. I’m saying bap, bap, bap about an ABA song, but it does. like all those things hit.
And they kind of smooth all of those those elements out. So I feel like the song loses what makes that song great. Besides that, though, it is kind of a fun.
It’s kind of fun to hear that song done in a different way because Eraser played it, you know, pretty much straight across the plate. And, and so as much as I love the erasure covers, it’s not like they’re necessarily bringing anything new to the table, whereas these guys absolutely are, but I do think they, they just, they left out the things that I think really make the song great and I think it would have been better if they had left them in. But that said, um, I didn’t go any deeper, and now I’m kind of curious after hearing you talk about that, maybe I should listen to some of their other stuff, because this song, it’s not a bad song, but it really, you know, the, going back to the, the, um, the, your song we’re talking about, not gimme, gimme, gimme.
Um, it’s, yeah, it doesn’t really go anywhere and it makes you feel like there’s, there should be more behind it that there’s something that should be coming, that never does, and that’s always a bad thing when you listen to a song. But, um, but yeah, I may I may dip my toe in a little bit more because they’ve intrigued me at least enough for that. So that’s something.
There’s some good stuff out there You guys may be able to smell my thoughts on this song, but I think I liked it better than both of you guys did. I almost did a, you can’t see me right now, but I almost spit water all over my laptop, so everybody at home give Keith credit for an almost spit take there. I did a, I thought, I didn’t, the vocals I don’t really, it weren’t anything.
They didn’t really care much about the vocals at all, but I liked the music of the song. I just thought it was just a nice, good guitar groove. And you’re right.
It doesn’t really go anywhere, but it’s good enough for my to my mind, it’s good enough that it carried itself throughout. So, yeah, it was not something I’m going to run out and go buy or anything. But I think I did like it more than you guys did.
And I also liked the video apparently more than you guys did. very vibing. You’re absolutely right about that. I mean, there’s almost nothing you can really latch onto.
But for me, I don’t know, just all the black and white imagery, you know, in the moving lights and the weird camera angles, and there’s the one part where suddenly the camera shoots up and it’s, you know, focusing on the little angel flying around in the sky, and I just, I don’t know, I liked it. I liked the black and white vibe the imagery of it along with the kind of droney guitar. This whole thing just kind of worked for me.
But I do agree that it’s, you know, this is not a song that’s going to like go to number one on the charts or anything or that, you know, everybody should run out and get a copy of right immediately. It’s not that kind of a song. But I did like it, and, you know, I don’t know that this is a band that I’m going to want to check out a whole lot more of, but this particular song, yeah, worked for me.
I thought it was pretty good. I mean, they get they get points for the name alone. Well, and I would say, Keith, honestly, if you liked this song, I think you will maybe really like some of their other stuff.
I mean, it’s all kind of this, at least at this, you know, this era of it, it’s all kind of this, but it’s it’s all just a little better in that, you know, the songs have choruses and they they build a little more than this one does. This one just seemed kind of drony to me. And I, like I said, I kept wanting it to do something that it just never did, you know?
But then cooking it with a stick. Yeah. Get to the other part.
But yeah, I mean, but you’re right. It has a good riff, and I, you know, I’m all of that’s there. I think what there is of it works really well.
But you’re right. It could have been fleshed out. I probably.
But yeah, just for the droney guitars, I like that. All right, folks, three. going to say 31 hit wonders, which we didn’t intend to do, but I’m going to go ahead and call killing Joker when it, like we really accidentally hit on, on 31 hit wonders this time, but all, all good. So, I mean, Icicle Works is, I’m struggling because I’m going to say that was, that’s my favorite of the songs we talked about this episode, but I’m not, I love pump up the volume, and I really love 80s.
They’re all 3 really good tracks. If you’re not familiar with them. They are all 3 a little more underground and a little, maybe lesser known than some of the other stuff we have and we’ll talk about in the future.
So this might be one of those where people are out there like, oh, I really haven’t listened to them. All 3 worth checking out. Leather nun?
I mean, sure, why not? If you’ve got the extra time. I’m not going to get out of your way.
I mean, you know, give them a try. If you got a minute, why not check it out? That’s it, folks.
October of 1987 is in the books. We’re going through MTV’s 120 minutes. We’ll come back next week or 2 weeks with November of 87.
Don’t forget to check out also 120 minutes.org. They’re the ones who have compiled all these playlists from 120 minutes. They’ve been doing it for years, and we really appreciate that because it saved us a ton of time, because we’re able to just go in and kind of check out the playlist and pick our song.
So shout out to them and thank you for the hard work that you guys are doing over there. Thanks to Keith Porterfield, Scott Mobley, for sitting in with me on this episode and we will see you next time for November of 1987 on